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October 21, 2008


Hellooooo from old fashioned Canada, where gay marriage is alive, strong, and legal everywhere. My straight marriage has not suffered, my society has not crumbled...everything is pretty much par for the course up here.

You didn't even touch on how gay weddings can help your struggling economy! Think of all the flights by out-of-town guests, all the gifts bought, all the banquets paid for,all the hotel rooms used, all the photographers getting an extra gig or two.... Why, gay marriage could SAVE your society.

Just sayin'.

Looky Daddy, as always you state your opinion with wonderful humor and insight, thanks for a great post!

Awesome, thank you Brian. Great post.

Awesome, indeed!

Anne Prince,
Not tan shoes - Tan cowboy boots. So it is worse than you imagined. Notice his brother's tan boots too, but it turns out alright because he is also half of the Awesome couple.

I would totally be your lesbian lover, if only you were a lesbian. Too bad, that.

consider your codes stolen.

LD, you're the greatest. We had fun scrolling through our wedding pictures, looking for the most embarrassing one. This and that one was kinda dorky, but when we came to the dancing one we both said "THAT'S THE ONE!"

As Joy attested above, there was NO Kool & the Gang at our wedding. We have excellent taste in music. We just look like morons when we dance. And now the evidence is going out on the web for all to see. Do we get Purple Hearts for our devotion to the cause?

Irma - our fearless (and I fear witless) leaders need to read your post - that logic could single handidly rid us of this recession that they say we are not in.

Also, all the comments remind me of a button that I have that states "I may be straight, but I'm not narrow." I think that sums it up perfectly.

BTW...Jerri Ann - your link is not working....


I encourage you all to read this. Orson Scott Card is a great writer, and a great thinker as well.

Stolen, linking.

To George: Orson Scott Card is an idiot and a bigot. The last rant about same-sex marriage of his that I read talked about how we can call it marriage if we want, but we'll just be children playing dress-up in the grownups' clothes. What a condescending, ignorant boob. Yes, we're just dressing up up there in our wedding dresses, and when we're up at 3 a.m. rocking and coaxing and singing our daughter back to sleep, we're just playing dress-up then too, and when we hold each other after death strikes our family, we're just pretending, and when we promise to be there for better or for worse as long as we both shall live, it's just a game. Yeah. Now he's at it again.

So, George, who the hell are you and Orson Scott Card to say we're not married? What, we couldn't possibly know anything about sacrifice or commitment or real love or fidelity because we're just a couple of queers? A very neat little circular argument that allows bigots to feel like the righteous.

If you are really open to change, spend some time with a married, same-sex couple. Real time, being with them in extraordinary times (at their wedding ceremony, for example) and ordinary ones (takeout and a movie) over the course of months at least. Suspend your judgment for that long and really see what there is to see, and then find out whether there is really a compelling state interest in keeping those two folks from having that life together.

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Sorry to rant in your space, LD. Here's your soapbox back. You use it more elegantly than I do but I just had to say it.

In Mexican weddings, we have the time honored tradition of the chicken dance. Everyone should have a right to flap their wings, shake their tush and clap four times!

The fact that people actually CARE what other people do in their personal lives is beyond me. This stuff drives me nuts!!!!


Your wholly un-ironic use of the word bigot to describe someone with a viewpoint different from your own almost makes my point in this post for me.

From my Apple Dictionary.app: marriage |╦łmarij|
1 the formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife
2 (in pinochle and other card games) a combination of a king and queen of the same suit.

Those are the definitions for that word. There are no others.

Words mean things. Treat them as such.

(In case you're wondering, here is the definition of bigot: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different ethnicity, race, or class.)

In this instance, that person is you.


I've never seen the Apple Dictionary used as an argument crutch before. Ironic that Apple just donated $100,000 to defeat Prop 8.


Keep using that dictionary, my man. Keep using that dictionary.

Those are the definitions for that word. There are no others.

Silly me. I thought marriage was much, much more than a formal union between two people. I thought it usually included such things as love, lifelong commitment, fidelity, respect, affection, intimacy, common interests, the creation of a shared home, the raising of children, and spiritual union. But I guess the dictionary definition in 2008 is all that matters.

I think I understand what you are trying to say. But before you rely on the dictionary to make an argument for you, you should first of all learn how they are created and what they are aiming to do. They are not intended to be prescriptive and they often don't even manage to be descriptive. To see what I mean, try looking up the word "virgin." Did you know there's no such thing as a male virgin, except in an archaic definition? That's what the dictionary says, so it must be so.

The authors of that dictionary were not at my wedding and apparently don't know much about my religion, nor about the history of the institution they are defining. However, as The Dad points out, Apple is very supportive of my marriage continuing to be recognized by the state as well as my church, so perhaps they're open to changing the definition. In the meantime, let's depend on the Supreme Court, not dictionary editors, to interpret the Constitution. The editors don't have those all-important checks and balances.

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I linked to your post on my blog. Well said.

Great post and steal-able pictures! I will post one on my blog!

I DO live in California, and I have already cast my vote opposing this silly proposition. The courts did the right thing; leave it alone!

My prediction is that cool heads will prevail, and the proposition will go down in a flaming dump.

New Reader as of today. You Rock. In Florida you are allowed to get Married in a sense, its called (I can't remember, it was 8 years ago) well, can't remember though it affords you all the same rights as a man/woman that is married, when we got "Married" we had our pictures done at the court house and our honey moon and vows at Sea World and we were told we couldn't do that there and the guy who ran the picture shop there told us he would do the pictures anyways, It was awesome what he did. Shame he had to risk his job to make our day wonderful.

Awesome. I stole your pictures. Thanks.

You are made of awesome - I'm from Vermont and I'm spreading the word on "No for Prop 8". Hey, I got to make my brother dress funny for my wedding to my husband. My brother returned the favor when he married his husband - fair is fair!

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